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April 5th, 2005


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08:46 am - Old friends and aged cheese -- "A"
Alan was my first best friend. He lived close by and we didn’t have many neighbors with kids. This was the ‘70s and he was a child of d-i-v-o-r-c-e. So where half the kids I knew of course, but my parents hadn’t quite adjusted to the new decade and I heard worry, pity, and sadness in their voices when they talked to his mom.

And charity, definitely charity. Whenever I did something and Alan wasn’t there my mom wanted to know why not. She was worried he was worried he was getting discriminated against by the stigma of divorce. Probably because that’s what her social set might have done 30 years earlier. But no, he usually wasn’t there because he was visiting his Dad or going on some outing with Mom’s new boyfriend. Again, this was the ‘70s in Marin and Mom had long black hair, peasant dresses, and had a potter’s wheel in the garage next to her VW bug. That combination was like crack for the hippie guys who fancied themselves a little artistic. Or the ones who needed a little more hippie cred because their businesses or investments had started to take off. She had plenty of boyfriends and good for her.

Alan and I used to play war together in the hills where the mansions hadn’t been built yet. Can you still buy toy guns at the supermarket? We had quite a cobbled-together little arsenal of plastic. My brother, who studied enough World War II history and books about guns to be put away in this post-columbine era, critiqued and altered them to look more real. I’m unclear on the exact timeline here, but I think the war on Vietnam hadn’t even ended yet and we would turn every boy’s birthday party into a wargame. I grew up with real guns and had square Republican parents, but I don’t know what these hippie parents were thinking. But then again, by 1975 the countercultural that could was hedging its bets. And these folks weren’t core. They hadn’t gone back to the land, they’d escaped the city and invested in the suburbs.

In fact, Alan’s mom had been getting her real estate degree after finding a limited market for her pots. We did end up going to Alan’s place on field trips from school for the next few years and got to make our own sagging ceramics. But the magic was gone. When the real estate boom hit, Alan’s mom married a sideburned but otherwise clean cute real estate agent and they moved into one of those new places on what used to be hillside. I lost track of Alan because speculating meant moving up and moving a lot. Plus they could afford private school by then and they didn’t want to be bound by school district boundaries. Nothing dramatic happened the last time I saw him back in the day. We just acclimated to different school and different friends and didn’t know what to do with each other when we got too old to play with toy guns in the hills


Asiago is often one of the world’s most overrated cheeses. Customers are surprisingly willing to fight me on this point. I don’t care. They are wrong.

I’m not saying it’s bad, mind you, just too expensive for what you get. Plus my credibility gets called into question when I tell them that the Domestic Stella Asiago with the black wax is better than most of the Italian ones. When I was younger, they would just flat out think I was untrained. Now that I’m older I’ve given in and carry three out of four almost all the time. Buy what you want.

There are four basic kinds: aged Italian, medium aged Italian, young Italian and domestic. It’s from Northern Italy, in the mountain area and blah blah blah. The young one is known as Asiago Pressato. It’s a semi-soft cheese with the consistency of a monterey jack. Comparing a cheese to jack makes fancy shoppers uncomfortable. But hey, I like jack. Anyways, it doesn’t taste exactly like jack it’s more sour and tangy and has much more depth of flavor. This is the one I buy for myself most often. Though it’s called Asiago, it has little resemblance to the others.

The medium, Asiago mezzano, is simply a waste of money unless you can find it for under $10/lb. which in these bad exchange rate days I doubt you can. It’s bland and flavorless in a way that cheese sales reps describe as "subtle". I can see eating this, especially with Italian meats, but not for this much money.

Aged Asiago, vecchio, can be worth the money but we’re talking near $15/lb in most cases. The only one I’d trust would be the Monti Trentini brand. When this cheese ages it gets the odd taste of fermented fruit along with the salty sharpness and nuttiness you’d expect. This taste can turn quickly and overpower everything else despite what the books saying about this being a durable cheese. I mean, it is a durable cheese, it’s lasted for a year or so, but importers seeking a deal will buy pallets of this stuff and there’s a limit to the warehouse aging process.

And then there’s the domestic. There’s no guarantee this cheese isn’t from cows shot up with rBGH and it’s a huge factory production made by Stella who also make some of the world’s worst "Parmesan". But in the end it kicks most Italian asiagos butts. It’s sharp, salty and has that slight vomit aftertaste of an Italian provolone. Oh, I’m not supposed to say vomit… is that what piquant means? Don’t buy it shredded or with a brown wax, but the black wax is a great deal for the money, less spendy than any hard Italian cheese and much, much better than most other non-Italian copy cat cheeses (domestic parmesan, Argentine parmesan etc.)

One of my proudest days as a cheesemonger was cornering my very credentialed purveyor of Italian cheeses, setting up a taste test of the aged asiagos and getting her to admit that the Stella was the best. She swore me to secrecy for life but the satisfaction was mine.

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From:[info]thewindrose
Date:April 5th, 2005 04:54 pm (UTC)

Interesting and informative

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I liked this post!! I hope this will be the start of a trend!!
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:50 pm (UTC)

Re: Interesting and informative

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yeah, I stole the alphabet thing from Anarqueso. But I'm taking it to a whole nother level, don't you think?
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From:[info]anarqueso
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:11 pm (UTC)

How low will you stoop?

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Great. First you hack my LJ. Now you're clearly going to appropriate my alphabet project. What will you stoop to next? You wanna sleep with my boyfriend?!
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:46 pm (UTC)

Re: How low will you stoop?

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I also stole your walk to work idea.

and not your boyfriend, but some of your exes are cute.
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From:[info]trixiefirecat
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:15 pm (UTC)
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do you write for any cheese publications?
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:49 pm (UTC)
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the only cheese publication I know of is the American Cheese Society newsletter. and that's pretty much trade only.
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From:[info]aparecida
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:25 pm (UTC)
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*takes notes* (on cheese, not on friend)
From:[info]chubbycore
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:37 pm (UTC)
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what's with english huntsman's cheese?

Love,
Chubs
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:51 pm (UTC)
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maybe when we hit "H". Patience Chubs, patience.
From:[info]flowerlane
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:40 pm (UTC)
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Honest to gawd - the "Alan and Me" story sounds like a pitch for a movie script: Sort of Running on Empty meets Laurel Canyon.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:51 pm (UTC)
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hahaha. we'll discuss it on sunday.
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From:[info]operaheels
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:43 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm ... I think I'm a little in love with Alan's mom. Also, still a lot in love with the early 70s and toy hand grenades that seemed so reasonable in light of the news on tv every night, not to mention the constant lewd acts committed by my brother's GI Joe upon my Barbie.

We used to break into my dad's razor blade stash in order to saw the head off of one of the little green army guys, then glue it on the bayonet of another army guy. Or, given our limited knowledge of Agent Orange from Walter Cronkite, we'd glue the decapitated head onto the shoulder, next to the head of another guy, cause two-headedness must have been among the potential long-term side effects of Vietnam, right?

All this, and look how wholesome and well-adjusted I turned out.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:53 pm (UTC)
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mutanted, agent oranged, plastic army men?!?! Awesome!
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From:[info]cheesetoast
Date:April 5th, 2005 05:58 pm (UTC)
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but see if your cheese wasn't pre-wrapped you could make the snooty customers taste both the domestic and italian versions and illustrate your point.

is it common for imported cheeses to suffer from shipping, whether it's the conditions or time or general freshness. if something is supposed to be aged 3 months do they ship it at 2.5 months so it gets here at the right time etc?
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:54 pm (UTC)
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oh, we give samples. Most people are convinced, the real snootsters can't be moved. It's like the 1 person in 100 who decided not to like the ossau-iraty because our sign says, "everyone loves this cheese"
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From:[info]secretslip
Date:April 5th, 2005 06:04 pm (UTC)
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Longtime listener, first time caller...

Oh my god! So how did Alan turn out? What's he like as an adult? C'mon, google him for us and tell us the results!

As far as cheese goes, in my local supermarkets, they usually have 2 sections for cheese: the shreaded storebrand/3-cheese nacho mix/velveeta and then the "fancy" cheese section with smoked gouda and brie. But you're like telling me that there's a whole nother category of cheese, perhaps in a completely different store. A cheese store. Interesting, I like it.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 08:00 pm (UTC)
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welcome.

Alan's name is too common to search. But also I've learned to let people stay in the past so I probably wouldn't do it anyways. And yes, there's a world of cheese beyond Von's, but I work at a grocery store, not a cheese store.
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From:[info]dairryiere
Date:April 5th, 2005 06:27 pm (UTC)
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Asiago pressato is my 2nd best selling Italian cheese and the peasent shirt, Volkswagon, and pottery wheel still works in my neck of the woods...yuck!

And another thing stay away from [info]anarqueso's boyfriend!
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 08:01 pm (UTC)
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have you been buying the whole wheels from Marin? They sent quarters by accident last week. Yuck. I had to cut off an inch on each side cuz of the nasty cryovac deterioration.
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From:[info]defenestr8r
Date:April 5th, 2005 06:30 pm (UTC)
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will you collect these and publish a highly-opinionated-cheese-dictionary. i am sure i could find someone to do layout and you could sell it to chronicle books for the cheese groupies like me.

oh, and in case you didn't already know today, i <3 u.


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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 08:03 pm (UTC)
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thanks. I got the chef tattoo article yesterday!!!

Chronicle books will probably, if publishing a cheese book, publish the one by their own writer who has a weekely column. This woul be more like a cheese chapbook.
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From:[info]clover44
Date:April 5th, 2005 06:49 pm (UTC)
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This is why I read your journal......fantastic entry!

Your review of the Stella Asiago gave me hope. The "gourmet" cheese section of our local groceries are anemic at best, but I bet they might have that.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 08:04 pm (UTC)
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yeah, it's an honest cheese, ya know. not a great cheese but fairly priced.
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From:[info]sarahshevett
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:14 pm (UTC)
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See, I have never had asagio Now I know enough to make a decision about it.
What are your thoughts on Jarlsberg?
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From:[info]sarahshevett
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:36 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I guess I'll wait until "J"
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From:[info]wild_irises
Date:April 5th, 2005 07:20 pm (UTC)
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The only place I know where asiago is "strongly preferred" is in making pesto. Do you have an opinion about that?

Love the alphabet concept!
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 5th, 2005 08:10 pm (UTC)

food is subjective

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well, I think the Stella is a good alternative if you don't wanna spend the money on Parmigiano Reggiano or Grana Padano, but I wouldn't use an Italian one. Pecorino Romano is a good substitute too, but adjust the salt level down in your recipe though.
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From:[info]msjen
Date:April 5th, 2005 10:19 pm (UTC)
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I am looking forward to "B." You should write a book.

When you get to V will you write about vegan cheese? It can just say "Don't bother." ;)
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From:[info]spoonfeeding
Date:April 7th, 2005 12:14 am (UTC)
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hahahaha. also low fat cheese.

blech

(although I have to qualify that by saying the nut cheese at Cafe Gratitude is delicious)

(haha I sad nut cheese)
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From:[info]violetisblue
Date:April 5th, 2005 10:40 pm (UTC)
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Yay, now I have an expert's license to hate asiago! I am vindicated.
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From:[info]bugsinamber
Date:April 5th, 2005 10:48 pm (UTC)
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I was talking to my friend Daryl about asiago just the other day and I said something to the effect of it not being a very versatile cheese, but maybe I just get that impression because it's usually melted on top of something. It's okay I guess. I don't hate it. The whole conversation was borne of me scolding him for using Pecorino Toscano as a cheese for making pizza. You see, Daryl is allergic to cow dairy (this is an entirely different situation from being lactose intolerant) and upon discovering a bunch of goat cheeses that he could have, he's like a kid in a candy store on a fuckin' sugar rush. He's throwing cheese on EVERYTHING! But in my limited knowledge, I'm trying to school him a little. I think it's wrong to melt Pecorino Toscano...it's way too sublime as is and melting it kind of destroys it's flavor to me. I don't know if there's a goat mozorella but that would probably be a better bet.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 6th, 2005 05:04 am (UTC)
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well, I'd use the goat jack, or young goat gouda, or a cheaper pecorino fresco. But really, he just loves the cheese and has been denied too long. I can't fault him for that.
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From:[info]maeve66
Date:April 5th, 2005 10:49 pm (UTC)
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Ooohh, I liked the whole bittersweet fading of the 70s ambiance, there. Madison, Wisconsin, wasn't completely unlike Marin in that way -- the long-haired hippie woman in the house next to our apartment had a full size loom in her front room, and I was fascinated by it. I think it's what made me a Sunshine family dolls fetishist as opposed to a GI Joe fetishist. Although I guiltily WANTED a GI Joe, even at the heart of the toddler set of the Antiwar Movement. Why did I want a GI Joe? For the same reasons I really wanted Matchbox cars, and never got either of them. Fucking gender matching toys. Annoying. Did you guys MAKE ALL THE GUN NOISES that go with plastic or wooden weaponry? I can't do that at all, and never could. I haven't met any girls who could. Yet. That I know of.

As for asiago -- yeah, man. Boring fucking cheese, you might as well buy American (Stella asiago, that is... not American cheese, ewww).
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From:[info]lovelikeyeast
Date:April 6th, 2005 01:37 am (UTC)
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That's it, I am finally friending you. I can't take it anymore.

Btw, I will fess up and say that I am a fan of the medium-aged asiago, though I don't know anyone who sells it here. I became addicted when I lived in berkeley and the cheese board made this amazing asiago-onion cheesebread that I would happily live and die off of. Now that I am a bread-maker, I still seek it out, trying to recreate perfection.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 6th, 2005 05:05 am (UTC)
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and I friended you back. I don't know why it's taken me so long either.
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From:[info]anarqueso
Date:April 6th, 2005 07:58 pm (UTC)

Wake up, people!

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It’s sharp, salty and has that slight vomit aftertaste of an Italian provolone. Oh, I’m not supposed to say vomit… is that what piquant means?

God, is anyone even reading this? Yes, he said vomit, and yes, it does taste like it, and, hello?! that's a bad thing. Bad, not good.
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From:[info]spoonfeeding
Date:April 7th, 2005 12:15 am (UTC)

Re: Wake up, people!

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yes, but so does blue cheese, and does that gross me out? no, I fucking love it. if you encase a cat in it, I'll eat it. I don't care.

You underestimate the strength of some of us's cheese ardor, anarqueso.
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From:[info]strangebint
Date:April 7th, 2005 06:22 am (UTC)
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Thanks for the info on pie club, I'd be so jazzed if you could come too. Not to invite you to your own friend's house or anything.
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From:[info]gordonzola
Date:April 7th, 2005 06:29 am (UTC)
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yeah, you should make her invite me again! I had fun hanging out with her that night.
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From:[info]msjen
Date:April 7th, 2005 07:33 am (UTC)
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Also, can I steal your idea and write about my students from A-Z?

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